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roshanabey2 · Jun 01, 2007, 11:06 AM // 11:06

I am a fairly experienced mm, level 20 of course ( who happens to be bankrupt, below 1k

) and i was wondering why my minions are doing so much better in southern shiverpeaks (mob level 24) than in Kaineng City(mob level 20)? obviolsy against afflicted minions do badly because of Afflicted Soul Explosion but against the jade brotherhood and Ah Fam?

Stormlord Alex · Jun 01, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19

Probably 'cuz the Jade Brotherhood are fond of AoE, like the Afflicted - Jade eles employ Wards, Dragon's Stomp and Double Dragon which slaughter minions.
Similarly, the Am Fah are fond of setting traps, and their necros steal corpses with Soul Feast.

Destinyy · Jun 01, 2007, 11:47 AM // 11:47

Yeah...

And an Am Fah Assassin will rip a minion apart in a matter of seconds...

As well as the fact that the necros cast Death Nova...

I think, tho I stand to be corrected, that the monsters in Factions and Nightfall deal alot more damage than the ones in Prophecies did... I noticed that running my MM in Shiverpeaks is alot easier than anywhere else...

Soul of the Scythe · Jun 01, 2007, 12:52 PM // 12:52

I can't say for sure, but it always seemed to me(up until recently), since Factions came out, that the Jade Brotherhood Knights were harder to kill than any other warrior I had faced previously. Like they had better armor or something. Anyone else think that when Factions first came out?

tijo · Jun 01, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50

This is mostly due to better skill bars on the enemies and maybe a smarter AI too although i think the AI is GW wide and not campaign related but i'm not sure. I used to think Jade Brotherhood Knights were harder to kill when factions came out, but now, i go through them easily as any other warrior from prophecies.

roshanabey2 · Jun 02, 2007, 11:38 AM // 11:38

hmmmmm........maybe they are designed to counter faction like skills, mabe if you went kaineng city with a prophecies build you will do so much better there than in southern shiverpeaks??

Francis Crawford · Jun 02, 2007, 12:31 PM // 12:31

Do you Death Nova your minions? That's an obvious tactic when they're dying too quickly.

roshanabey2 · Jun 03, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34

no, it takes time to death nova your minions when fighting (i'm not quick enough)

pamelf · Jun 03, 2007, 12:55 PM // 12:55

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Originally Posted by Soul of the Scythe

I can't say for sure, but it always seemed to me(up until recently), since Factions came out, that the Jade Brotherhood Knights were harder to kill than any other warrior I had faced previously. Like they had better armor or something. Anyone else think that when Factions first came out?

I noticed that too. They still slaughter me if I haven't played their area for a few months the first time through, but once I'm used to them they're ok.

Curse You · Jun 03, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by Soul of the Scythe

I can't say for sure, but it always seemed to me(up until recently), since Factions came out, that the Jade Brotherhood Knights were harder to kill than any other warrior I had faced previously. Like they had better armor or something. Anyone else think that when Factions first came out?

Maybe it's because they use [wiki]"Watch Yourself!"[/wiki], or the fact that they commonly have Jade Brotherhood Ritualists backing them up.

Soul of the Scythe · Jun 04, 2007, 01:54 PM // 13:54

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Originally Posted by Curse You

Maybe it's because they use [wiki]"Watch Yourself!"[/wiki], or the fact that they commonly have Jade Brotherhood Ritualists backing them up.

Back then, it was the 2 groups of 3 Knights right outside The Marketplace. No Rits there. I was playing an assassin so that might have been it... lol. they jsut seemed so much harder than any other warriors I had faced previously. They probably jsut had better skill bars as has been said.

Jun 01, 2007, 11:06 AM // 11:06	#1
roshanabey2 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2007 Guild: [lion] Profession: N/Mo	A basic(sort of) mm question. I am a fairly experienced mm, level 20 of course ( who happens to be bankrupt, below 1k ) and i was wondering why my minions are doing so much better in southern shiverpeaks (mob level 24) than in Kaineng City(mob level 20)? obviolsy against afflicted minions do badly because of Afflicted Soul Explosion but against the jade brotherhood and Ah Fam?

Jun 01, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19	#2
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	Probably 'cuz the Jade Brotherhood are fond of AoE, like the Afflicted - Jade eles employ Wards, Dragon's Stomp and Double Dragon which slaughter minions. Similarly, the Am Fah are fond of setting traps, and their necros steal corpses with Soul Feast.

Jun 01, 2007, 11:47 AM // 11:47	#3
Destinyy Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Faction of War [ARES]	Yeah... And an Am Fah Assassin will rip a minion apart in a matter of seconds... As well as the fact that the necros cast Death Nova... I think, tho I stand to be corrected, that the monsters in Factions and Nightfall deal alot more damage than the ones in Prophecies did... I noticed that running my MM in Shiverpeaks is alot easier than anywhere else...

Jun 01, 2007, 12:52 PM // 12:52	#4
Soul of the Scythe Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Guild: Higher Order [HO] Profession: D/	I can't say for sure, but it always seemed to me(up until recently), since Factions came out, that the Jade Brotherhood Knights were harder to kill than any other warrior I had faced previously. Like they had better armor or something. Anyone else think that when Factions first came out?

Jun 01, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50	#5
tijo Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Montreal Guild: [CDDR] Profession: R/	This is mostly due to better skill bars on the enemies and maybe a smarter AI too although i think the AI is GW wide and not campaign related but i'm not sure. I used to think Jade Brotherhood Knights were harder to kill when factions came out, but now, i go through them easily as any other warrior from prophecies.

Jun 02, 2007, 11:38 AM // 11:38	#6
roshanabey2 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2007 Guild: [lion] Profession: N/Mo	hmmmmm........maybe they are designed to counter faction like skills, mabe if you went kaineng city with a prophecies build you will do so much better there than in southern shiverpeaks??

Jun 02, 2007, 12:31 PM // 12:31	#7
Francis Crawford Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005	Do you Death Nova your minions? That's an obvious tactic when they're dying too quickly.

Jun 03, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34	#8
roshanabey2 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2007 Guild: [lion] Profession: N/Mo	no, it takes time to death nova your minions when fighting (i'm not quick enough)